WARNING: AzBox Premium HD Plus counterfeit units now being sold in the North American market!

So, who would want a receiver with only 2 rows of vents, or 3, or 5, when you can have 8 rows of vents! LOL! Though, I have to admit, I do like the 5 rows of vents on the HDD cover!
 

OK.
Your first link goes to an advertisement from 2009. Google translated it for me and I copied the translation below. The advertised price was $420 Euro which would bring it to around $500.00 U.S. if there is a shipping charge.

"Thursday, November 19, 2009
AZBOX Premium HD + Dual DVB-S2 tuner

As we suspected, AZBOX well prepared for a new version of its popular AZBOX Premium HD AZBOX as the Premium HD +. The new version will be completely different from the first because the motherboard will be larger. On the other hand, the case will propose a hatch on the top of the unit for easier access to the location of the internal hard disk. As on the previous model, the location on the hard disk will be mounted on anti-vibration pads to reduce noise writing. Finally, there will be a priori no internal fan.

Price: about 420 € "


Your second link goes to a China website that starts out with the AZBox with all the extra top vents. That is the only time they show that picture. When you scroll on down, you will see Receiver pictures of the AZBox that are identical to mine.
My guess is this AZBox Premium Plus does not exist except in pictures, but I have no way to prove that.
I do know you have to watch China advertisers very closely because what they send you may only resemble what was in the picture.
About $300.00 U.S. shipped for your second link. I did not pay near that for mine! EB
 
no, no, no, more is not better if your receiver has a fan, you want the fan to pull the air over the parts that get hot so you put the vents over the parts that need to be cooled, all the extra vents will take away from this.

True, as long as there are enough to do the job, and I don't recall offhand heating issues with the Premium Plus, or with the unit I have, the Ultra HD. Only issues I recall hearing about have been after the installation of a HDD (and, of course, that depends on the type of HDD installed), therefore, my comment about the HDD cover vents. Of course, the number it has probably would be overkill and might detract from the air flow of the rest of the unit, but a couple of rows would have helped for those with a problem.
 
True, as long as there are enough to do the job, and I don't recall offhand heating issues with the Premium Plus, or with the unit I have, the Ultra HD. Only issues I recall hearing about have been after the installation of a HDD (and, of course, that depends on the type of HDD installed), therefore, my comment about the HDD cover vents. Of course, the number it has probably would be overkill and might detract from the air flow of the rest of the unit, but a couple of rows would have helped for those with a problem.
the arswer to the HDD heat problem is a simple fix, at the back of the HDD tray you need to drill some air holes, not in the cover or the
case, just the tray, if you take off the HDD cover and look at the back of the tray with the HDD still in it you will see there is no way for
air to pass over the HDD, putting some air holes in the tray will fix it.
 
el bandido you have had a few days to play with the azbox, what do you think of it, good or bad.
i have had my azbox 4 years now, i buy new receivers but nothing i buy can replace my azbox, this could just be me,lol.
 
el bandido you have had a few days to play with the azbox, what do you think of it, good or bad.
i have had my azbox 4 years now, i buy new receivers but nothing i buy can replace my azbox, this could just be me,lol.

If 4:2:2 is not a must for you,, then the Raptor will replace that azbox easy.
 
If 4:2:2 is not a must for you,, then the Raptor will replace that azbox easy.
so what will it do that my azbox want do, does it have YouTube, movie player, music player, photo viewer, file manager, ftp client,
RSS news, WEB Browser, and the option to add Plugins, like, I radio, Weather Forecast, google map, Streamrip, webcamviwer, LiveFeeds,
ok i will stop at that before i get in trouble,LOL.
 
so what will it do that my azbox want do, does it have YouTube, movie player, music player, photo viewer, file manager, ftp client,
RSS news, WEB Browser, and the option to add Plugins, like, I radio, Weather Forecast, google map, Streamrip, webcamviwer, LiveFeeds,
ok i will stop at that before i get in trouble,LOL.

Yes to most and more. and you can also install an internal hard drive,,It a huge beast, well built and very hard to kill..you may also load various firmwares from other compatible boxes that offers many different features,,some work well, some not as well..Best box I have ever owned.

Ask EB..LOL..have a look at the Raptor forums for more info..

I should add this is all done by the main operating system and you have the option of installing enigma2 for a second operating system to expand even more.
 
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As most of you know, I keep a seperate azbox for each of my feeds and they wouldn't be complete without them. The 3 things that I find unrivalled with any other stb is 4:2:2 feeds, picture quality and signal meter. I have mentioned tuner sensitivity in the past but since I've been scanning with the x2 premium, I take that back.
 
4:2:2 is the only thing an az can do that other boxes cannot, many can live a very happy life with no need for those limited feeds..I know I can.

I do not have an azbox and never will , So I can't compare the picture quality to the Raptor...But I have never seen a better picture on any box than the Raptor.
The versatility of the Raptor makes it a class box IMO and very hard to beat.
 
I have never had a Raptor so I cannot comment on its picture quality either. 4:2:2 feeds are crucial in my feed posts and whenever I want to watch an NFL game or college basketball, I know those feeds will be there.
 
I have never had a Raptor so I cannot comment on its picture quality either. 4:2:2 feeds are crucial in my feed posts and whenever I want to watch an NFL game or college basketball, I know those feeds will be there.

What we discussed,, the az would be a dead box with no 4:2:2,

Thanks Costa for posting feeds for the az owners..
 
It is good in a way this thread is here and someone has posted the info on the so called clone.
Good in the way that if my azbox ever died on me, and I wanted a receiver that could do 4:2:2 feeds and if Rick's ever sold out of the original receivers, there are other places to get a receiver that will pick up the 4:2:2 signals without supporting the people who started trashing other legit businesses without the hard evidence beforehand.
 
http://www.hypermegasat.com/AZBox Premium Plus HD.htm

Hypermegasat has a picture of the Premium Plus with the top covered in vents. IMO, this is not a clone picture but rather a sales flyer photo. I think the only AZBox Premium Plus clone being produced will closely resemble or be identical to mine.

I do not know if the Premium Plus clone that I have was produced with Opensat support, but my Premium Plus receiver has an Opensat sticker on it as does the gift box.
I do think everybody will agree that the Premium Plus clone, copy, or whatever else you want to call it was produced AFTER Opensat closed and AFTER the Premium Plus from Korea was discontinued. For this reason, I do not see anything wrong with people buying the Premium Plus from China if they chose to do so.

It appears that this thread was started in response to receiver pricing rather than the threat of a legitimate receiver being cloned.
I took a quick look at some prices for the Premium Plus and this is what I found:
Gosatellite = $349.99
Worldwide Satellites = $299.99
Incrediblefta.com = $379.95
Research Electronics = $329.95

I also looked at Dr.Sat or docsat on Ebay. It would cost me about $389.00 for the Premium Plus receiver, and another $30.00 to get it shipped here. So I would have to pay about 420.00 U.S. dollars in order to get a single tuner Premium Plus AZBox on Ebay from Dr. Sat!
I paid about $265.00 U.S. for the China made Premium Plus with TWO tuners! Fast DHL shipping was included in this price.

It is time to say Thanks to the people that helped us determine the differences between the China and Korean Premium plus receivers. I really appreciate the efforts made here to determine exactly what is going on here.
I cannot figure out why fta dealers would still have large stocks of a receiver that has been out of production for so long. Lower your prices to something more reasonable and you might get rid of these dinosaurs before you get stuck with them!
The Premium Plus is an excellent receiver but it has old and outdated technology. Crying about AZBox Premium Plus clones and illegal sellers at this point will only bring you more problems. EB
 
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