Adding/Editing APIDs on Edision Mio+

[cyberham]

I've learned there are some good audio channels on 105W C, but it's necessary to manually add the APIDs similar to the Mood Music channels on 101W. Is there a way to do this on the Mio+? I know I can use an external editor to do this, but I had a bad experience in past when I exported, edited using an editor, then imported back to the Edision. If I recall, I successfully corrupted the database.

I can edit APIDs on my other receiver right on the box I believe.

 

[el bandido]

A good channel editor will be the easiest way. Care to share these pids? Or you may keep them.

 

[EnoSat]

https://legitfta.com/forum/showthread.php?25606-PID-or-Channel-Edit-in-Enigma2-Lamedb-File-Edit

 

[cyberham]

A good channel editor will be the easiest way. Care to share these pids? Or you may keep them.

I've programmed using my other receiver with an external editor and the PIDs do work. PIDs courtesy of photoman76.

105W SES11 4043 V 10126:
Classic Rock: APID 1202 (AAC)
The Touch: APID 1204 (AAC)
Hot Country: APID 1205 (AAC)
Adult Contemporary: APID 1206 (AAC)
Hot AC: APID 1207 (AAC)
Classic Country: APID 1208 (AAC)
Classic Hits: APID 1210 (AAC)
Mainstream Country: APID 1211 (AAC)

 

[Megatron817]

Added to muzak sat xml entry 105.2w westwood-one ses11, replace etc/enigma2.
lamedb merge the lamedb file.

Lamedb updated now includes PIDs 1101-1181 and 1201-1238

 

[EnoSat]

Alternatively, it is possible to verify active PIDs using dvbsnoop, without relying on PAT/PMT

root@ustym4kpro:~# dvbsnoop -s pidscan
dvbsnoop V1.4.56 -- https://github.com/OpenVisionE2/dvbsnoop

---------------------------------------------------------
Transponder PID-Scan...
---------------------------------------------------------
PID found:    0 (0x0000)  [SECTION: Program Association Table (PAT)]
PID found:  101 (0x0065)  [PS/PES: ISO/IEC 13818-3 or ISO/IEC 11172-3 audio stream]
PID found:  103 (0x0067)  [unknown]
PID found: 1015 (0x03f7)  [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)]
PID found: 8191 (0x1fff)  [stuffing]
root@ustym4kpro:~#

 

[cyberham]

Alternatively, it is possible to verify active PIDs using dvbsnoop...

I found a lot of PIDs! Does this mean these shown below and many more just like it are hidden audio streams I could play?


ADDED: I randomly selected two new PIDs (1203, 1209) and, no, they don't play.

 

[Megatron817]

I found a lot of PIDs! Does this mean these shown below and many more just like it are hidden audio streams I could play?
View attachment 18647

ADDED: I randomly selected two new PIDs (1203, 1209) and, no, they don't play.

1213-96.5 The Fan,1214- The Overnite Ride from Nashville, 1217-Country Nights, 1218-Adult Standards, 1222-Christmas,1223- Sunday Morning with Rev. Al Sharpton airs Sundays, 9 A.M. EST. NYC,1224- Love and R and B Sun-Thu Night, 1226-Good Time Oldies, 1228-Big time Sat Night'Country Music', 1229-Real Country
1232-infinity sports sat. Night, 1234-Inspiration Music, 1235-Inspirational Sun. 11am

 

[cyberham]

Added to muzak sat xml entry 105.2w westwood-one ses11, replace etc/enigma2.
lamedb merge the lamedb file.

I basically followed this procedure and now have the eight channels on my Mio+ in a separate 105W C-band directory like we do with the Mood Music channels on 101W. I can likely add additional channels by modifying the lamedb file supplied here and merging it again with the system lamedb.

 

[Megatron817]

I basically followed this procedure and now have the eight channels on my Mio+ in a separate 105W C-band directory like we do with the Mood Music channels on 101W. I can likely add additional channels by modifying the lamedb file supplied here and merging it again with the system lamedb.

I updated the lamedb with a full list Of pids 1201-1234 in post #5.
All you need to do is goto tuner configuration and set LNB not configured for 105.2w and save and choose yes to all to delete the previous 8 channels the restart enigma2. Now you can merge the new updated lamedb then configure LNB for 105.2w.
Not all services are 24-7.

 

[EnoSat]

I found a lot of PIDs! Does this mean these shown below and many more just like it are hidden audio streams I could play?
ADDED: I randomly selected two new PIDs (1203, 1209) and, no, they don't play.

Only 29 PIDs in transponder ?

 

[cyberham]

This worked like a charm. I now have 18 active channels in my Mio+. This certainly rivals the Mood Music on 101W Ku. And I'm receiving them well with just a 4-foot dish.

 

[EnoSat]

101W should include 70 radios
https://www.lyngsat.com/muxes/SES-1_North-America-Ku_12000-V.html

 

[cyberham]

I've got 78 programmed on 101W Ku. The 105W C channels give even more choice. And there may be some who don't have a Ku dish.

 

[Megatron817]

This worked like a charm. I now have 18 active channels in my Mio+. This certainly rivals the Mood Music on 101W Ku. And I'm receiving them well with just a 4-foot dish.

If you look at the clocks you'll see when the shows air on some of the the silent channels. Click on the Wegener Clock links.
https://technology.westwoodone.com/clocks/view

 

[Megatron817]

I've learned there are some good audio channels on 105W C, but it's necessary to manually add the APIDs similar to the Mood Music channels on 101W. Is there a way to do this on the Mio+? I know I can use an external editor to do this, but I had a bad experience in past when I exported, edited using an editor, then imported back to the Edision. If I recall, I successfully corrupted the database.

I can edit APIDs on my other receiver right on the box I believe.

Discovered the westwood one channels are not hidden. Two channels scan in WWOTX and 502. WWOTX has PID 1101 thru 1238 less 1153 thru 1200 and 502 has 1153 thru 1181.use the audio button to change pid.
It does make it easier to change the channel by making a lineup in a satellite editor I will say.

 

[cyberham]

Discovered the westwood one channels are not hidden...

Ha...made me laugh. There they are all scanned in and available with a touch of the audio button. I'm glad I didn't know. It is much handier accessing them from a list with format names visible.

 

[Megatron817]

Updated post #5 lamedb again. pids 1101-1181 and 1201-1238 There is no 1182-1200.

 

[cyberham]

Merged the new lamedb with system lamedb. This added an additional 18 PIDs with audio for total of 36 PIDs playing audio right now. Most of the new ones are talking so they're more like radio stations that good music channels.

 

[EnoSat]

Thanks to the willingness of one of us, it was possible to see what the TS of individual transponders look like on 105W.
4043V has all audio pids (AAC,HA-AAC,MPEG) in PMT, so it shouldn't be a problem to choose one. It is questionable, but how enigma will cope with 119 pids in two PMTs.
However, on other transponders there are indeed also Audio pids that are not tied to PAT or SDT. In that case, manual editing of lamedb is necessary.
PS: 4153V with RDS tag

	<sat name="105.0W C-band AMC 15 & EchoStar 105/SES 11" flags="1" position="-1051">
		<transponder frequency="3712000" symbol_rate="3000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2" /><!-- ? -->
		<transponder frequency="3991000" symbol_rate="5833000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" />
		<transponder frequency="4020000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2" />
		<transponder frequency="4025000" symbol_rate="5000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2" />
		<transponder frequency="4043000" symbol_rate="10127000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" />
		<transponder frequency="4060000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2" />
		<transponder frequency="4080000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2" />
		<transponder frequency="4100000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2" />
		<transponder frequency="4110000" symbol_rate="7135000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" />
		<transponder frequency="4118000" symbol_rate="1760000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" /><!-- -->
		<transponder frequency="4122000" symbol_rate="2500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="2" />
		<transponder frequency="4126000" symbol_rate="3702000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" />
		<transponder frequency="4133000" symbol_rate="5000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" />
		<transponder frequency="4136000" symbol_rate="726000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="0" modulation="1" />
		<transponder frequency="4140000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2" />
		<transponder frequency="4153000" symbol_rate="516000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" />
		<transponder frequency="4158000" symbol_rate="1694000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="1" modulation="0" /><!-- DATA -->
		<transponder frequency="4163000" symbol_rate="4163000" polarization="1" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2" />
		<transponder frequency="4168000" symbol_rate="4073000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="0" modulation="1" />
		<transponder frequency="4174000" symbol_rate="3333000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2" system="0" modulation="1" />
		<transponder frequency="4180000" symbol_rate="30000000" polarization="0" fec_inner="4" system="1" modulation="2" />
	</sat>