They are finally replacing the roof at my work. So I drive a car around the building on a test drive yesterday. Lo and behold there was a 4' fiberglass Ku dish on a flat roof mount in some construction debris along with a Dtv dish with a roof mount. They had been dropped two stories or so to the pavement. The right hand side of the dish is damaged some but everything else was unscathed. I claimed the dish and will be setting it up soon. I don't have a 4' setup yet so I am hopeful it will have better reception than my cheap metal 39" Ku dishes.