WARNING: AzBox Premium HD Plus counterfeit units now being sold in the North American market!

[el bandido]

OK.
So now the clone information originally posted by PwrSurge is wrong since it describes the receiver Rick is selling?

You cannot have it both ways. Either the pictures clone receiver's vent holes posted by PwrSurge are actually legitimate receivers or Rick is selling clones. One of the two.

[Keith Brannen]

OK.
So now the clone information originally posted by PwrSurge is wrong since it describes the receiver Rick is selling?

You cannot have it both ways. Either the pictures clone receiver's vent holes posted by PwrSurge are actually legitimate receivers or Rick is selling clones. One of the two.

Post #54 is a detailed history of the sequence of events, why it was originally thought to be a clone, posts, photos, and information that were released at the time, and then the later discovery that the units were supplied by Rick Caylor, the authorized US distributor, to a Canadian company. They are not clones (nor is it suggested that Rick Caylor is selling clones), so the original information and posted photos were incorrect, and post #54 details all of that. That is the way I read it.

When the unit you purchased from China arrives, then we will know what the differences are, as we know that unit is definitely a clone.

[x302]

I don't know who you are Keith, but I would almost assume that you work for Serge. That's irrelevant. You keep pointing out post #54 but have completely failed to mention anything about post #56, especially where Serge wrote

"So far, it appears that all the Premium HD Plus units with 3 rows of vents came from Rick's. We even contacted all authorised European AzBox distributors and from who we have heard from so far, none of them have ever heard of a new version of the Premium HD Plus with 3 rows of vents."

at the bottom of his post. That definitely sounds like someone accusing the other. I've never dealt with this Serge guy, and I never will, but I have dealt with Rick, more than once, and I can tell that he is leagues above Serge both professionally and as an individual.

[Keith Brannen]

I don't know who you are Keith, but I would almost assume that you work for Serge. That's irrelevant.

Yes, it is an irrelevant comment. No, you don't know me, but many here (including some moderators) do know me (hopefully!) from other sites. Just to set your mind at ease, I don't work for Serge, or have any connection with any dealers or distributors in any capacity. By your logic, am I to assume that everyone who disagrees with me works for Rick?

You keep pointing out post #54 but have completely failed to mention anything about post #56, especially where Serge wrote

"So far, it appears that all the Premium HD Plus units with 3 rows of vents came from Rick's. We even contacted all authorised European AzBox distributors and from who we have heard from so far, none of them have ever heard of a new version of the Premium HD Plus with 3 rows of vents."

at the bottom of his post. That definitely sounds like someone accusing the other.

That whole post was in reply to IQ180's claim that the so-called clones were real, and the real ones clones! He pointed out that so far none of the other authorized dealers that he was able to contact had similar units to the ones that Rick Caylor has. You say he is inferring that they are clones, I see it differently. No big deal, we disagree.

Look also at the changes between post #22 and post #54, post #22 says "counterfeit unit" whereas post #54 says "test unit", big difference.

I've never dealt with this Serge guy, and I never will, but I have dealt with Rick, more than once, and I can tell that he is leagues above Serge both professionally and as an individual.

Sounds like you do work for Rick! LOL!

[iq180]

at the end of all of this i think this is what we find, this is JMO, back in 2011 when opensat got there hands on the first clones and saw how well they were made, they had them
start making there azboxes for 1/4 of the price of the KOREA made azboxes, so i think the new clone and the so called new azboxes, there will be no DIFFERENCES, as for my old
axbox hd premium plus there will lots of DIFFERENCES,JMO.

[iq180]

Ok, I've taken apart my AZBox, which you all know I've been running since early 2009. In this post I'm just going to post a lot of high rez pix.
If you want to comment on any of them, please give me the Pix # that I've associated with that particular image. I have at least 80 images, so that means 8 posts with 10 in each post. Here we go 1 of 8.
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[iq180]

Ok, I've taken apart my AZBox, which you all know I've been running since early 2009. In this post I'm

just going to post a lot of high rez pix.
If you want to comment on any of them, please give me the Pix# that I've associated with that particular image. I have at least 80 images, so that means 8 posts with 10 in each post. Here we go 2 of 8.
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[iq180]

Ok, I've taken apart my AZBox, which you all know I've been running since early 2009. In this post I'm just going to post a lot of high rez pix.
If you want to comment on any of them, please give me the Pix# that I've associated with that particular image. I have at least 80 images, so that means 8 posts with 10 in each post. Here we go 3 of 8.

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[iq180]

Ok, I've taken apart my AZBox, which you all know I've been running since early 2009. In this post I'm just going to post a lot of high rez pix.
If you want to comment on any of them, please give me the Pix# that I've associated with that particular image. I have at least 80 images, so that means 8 posts with 10 in each post. Here we go 4 of 8.

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[iq180]

Ok, I've taken apart my AZBox, which you all know I've been running since early 2009. In this post I'm just going to post a lot of high rez pix.
If you want to comment on any of them, please give me the Pix# that I've associated with that particular image.
I have at least 80 images, so that means 8 posts with 10 in each post. Here we go 5 of 8.

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