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10-12-2023, 06:25 PM
WilburSmith

Blind scan renders duplicate channels

I installed today a Quad Polar Legacy 4 O/P LNB.

When I went to view channels nothing was available although channels were listed and the dish moved from satellite to satellite. I did a rescan and the channels came back. But for some odd reason they come in duplicate. This happens with both my Edison receiver and Koqit receiver. This is strange.

At first I was thinking that I was getting SD & HD versions of the same channel but this isn't the case.

Has anyone seen this beofre? What's this called? Can it be fixed?

Thanks!
10-12-2023, 08:19 PM
Executive

Did you do a software update recently on your Edison?
10-13-2023, 06:05 AM
WilburSmith

Yes I did. I think the problem is being caused by quad lbn because when I had a universal lnb in place no issue. When I changed then both Edison and koqit stbs were effected with same issue.
10-13-2023, 07:15 AM
el bandido

It's just a guessing game without some decent information about the lnb and the way the receiver(s) are setup.

What is the make/model of the lnb? A google search of Quad Polar Legacy 4 O/P LNB is useless.
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What polarity is being duplicated? One? Both? or do you know?
What particular satellite has this problem? An example satellite would help.
A channel scan log is created for each scan if you are running a TNAP image on the Edision. The scan log is designed to assist in problems such as this and can be found by default in the /tmp folder of receiver files. It would help to post this file as it contains lots of information, but don't confuse it with the blindscan transponder log which is also in the /tmp folder.

What are the antenna settings in the receiver?
Not much of a way to help you without knowing this information besides guessing. A screencap or screenshot can be taken with the Edision that shows the antenna settings in the receiver. This is easy and only takes a couple of minutes to do. You may list the antenna settings as an alternate to a screenshot.

What is installed between the receiver and lnb? Switches? Ground blocks? Other?
A brief, precise description of what is installed between the receiver and lnb helps. It also helps to know if you are trying to run two receivers off the same lnb.
10-13-2023, 10:24 AM
WilburSmith

Hi, Below are the answers for your questions.

What is the make/model of the lnb?

Invacom Quad QPH-031 KU LNB 2 Linear & Polar Outputs
LO 10.76/11.25

What polarity is being duplicated? One? Both? or do you know?

Both 'V' parity is being duplicated. I confirmed this via transponder info menu.

When blind scanning polarisation set to:

Per 77W

Verticle and horizontal = I get duplicates of each tv channel but not radio
Verticle = I get duplicates of each tv channel but not radio
Horizontal = No Transponders were found (Probably because no H transponders exist)

What particular satellite has this problem? An example satellite would help.

77W See above

A channel scan log is created for each scan if you are running a TNAP image on the Edision. The scan log is designed to assist in problems such as this and can be found by default in the /tmp folder of receiver files. It would help to post this file as it contains lots of information, but don't confuse it with the blindscan transponder log which is also in the /tmp folder.

There was no channel scan log to be found. I'm using OpenATV 7.3 but this is the blindscan.xml in case.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>



<satellites>
<sat name="101.0W Ku-band T9S/T16 & SES 1" flags="0" position="2590">
<transponder frequency="10705000" symbol_rate="3650000" polarization="1" fec_inner="3" system="1" modulation="1" />
<transponder frequency="10906000" symbol_rate="5000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1" />
<transponder frequency="10933000" symbol_rate="5000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1" />
<transponder frequency="11001000" symbol_rate="20000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1" />
<transponder frequency="11756000" symbol_rate="5000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1" />
<transponder frequency="11783000" symbol_rate="5000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1" />
<transponder frequency="11850000" symbol_rate="20000000" polarization="1" fec_inner="0" system="0" modulation="1" />
</sat>
</satellites>

What are the antenna settings in the receiver?

Tuner setup - Advanced setting

Configuration mode: Advanced
Satellite: 77W

LNB = LNB 1 OR 2 OR 3 (because you have 3 lnb’s)
Priority = Auto
Type of LNB/Device = Universal LNB
Voltage mode = Polarization
Tone mode = Band
Increased voltage = No
DiSEqC mode = 1.2
Fast DiSEqC = No
Yone Burst = None
DiSEqC 1.0 command = Port B
DiSEqC 1.1 command = None
Sequence repeat = No
Use USALS for this sat = Yes
000.000
West
000.000
North
Extra motor options = No
Force Legacy Signal stats = No

What is installed between the receiver and lnb? Switches? Ground blocks? Other?

Pansat 4X1 DiSEqC Switch
LNB 1 Port B
LNB 2 Port A
LNB 3 Port C

Priority switch

It also helps to know if you are trying to run two receivers off the same lnb.

I use a priority switch and more than one receiver can't be used at same time.

Other:

Satelite moves from satelite to satellite normally
10-13-2023, 10:47 AM
el bandido

TNAP is the only image that currently makes a channel scan log.

The l.o. for that lnb is 10750 MHz for linear. Apparently you are using Universal settings.

Your information is confusing. The blindscan log you provided is for 101w ku, but you say this is for 77w???

Anyway, try using the Circular LNB setting instead of Universal in the Edision antenna settings and you should be fine. Delete what you have and re-scan.
10-13-2023, 11:58 AM
WilburSmith

I solved my issue!

On my Koqit I change the universal frequency to 10750. As soon as I did that all my previous scans were restored and the duplicates could be deleted.

On my Edison you are not allowed to change the setting to Circular LNB, especially when that's NOT what we are dealing with. It must remain as Universal LNB!

Doing the blind scan is another matter. Here I kept the the Scan from frequency as 10700 and the Scan stop frequency as 11700 (formerly 12750). My reasoning was based on this:

When scanning for FTA (Free-to-Air) satellites in North America, the frequency range typically covered by a standard LNB is from 11,700 MHz to 12,200 MHz. However, there are universal LNBs that cover a broader range from 10,700 MHz to 12,750 MHz. This universal range is divided into two bands, and a 22kHz signal is used to switch between these two bands. Some satellites that are receivable in North America use the lower band, which ranges from 10,700 MHz to 11,700 MHz source.

I scanned 77WEST and now the duplicate channels disappeared.

I guess a good question to ask now is what percentage of North American satellites can be found within: 10,700 MHz to 11,700 MHz source.
10-13-2023, 12:17 PM
WilburSmith

PS. In the advanced options the 'Type of LNB' can be changed to USER DEFINED

Then these settings need to change. Currrently they are:

LOF/L 09750
LOF/H 10500
Threshold 11700

Could these be changed to

LOF/L 10700
LOF/H 11700
Threshold

What should threshold be then?

If changes are applied here then they effect all satellites system wide, whereas under blind scan its more specific to a certain satellite if a change made there.
10-13-2023, 12:27 PM
el bandido

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On my Edison you are not allowed to change the setting to Circular LNB, especially when that's NOT what we are dealing with. It must remain as Universal LNB!

LOL!

Apparently, you know more about these receivers than I do. But just in case, you might want to read the thread FROM 2019 in the link below. Especially post #3 on page 1.

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10-13-2023, 12:43 PM
WilburSmith

So the three data points I asked about above all get changed to 10750....
10-13-2023, 03:07 PM
el bandido

Correct, Change all three to 10750 Or as I said earlier, use Circular.

We can look at the file where these settings are managed in the link below.
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Lines 466-469 show how Circular lnb is set in enigma2 for OpenATV:

Quote:

elif currLnb.lof.value == "circular_lnb":
sec.setLNBLOFL(10750000)
sec.setLNBLOFH(10750000)
sec.setLNBThreshold(10750000)

So all three to 10750 or use Circular. Either one should do the same thing unless OpenATV has changed their blindscan coding.

Other lnb settings will work, and it does not matter what you use as long as you are satisfied with the results.
10-13-2023, 04:43 PM
ArloG

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The threshold is the frequency at which the receiver tells the LNB to switch to high band, it can be anywhere from 11,500 to 11,700 (possibly a little higher, as the highest frequency on the satellite is less than 13,000).
Standard (user defined) ku lnbf's use 10750 for all 3 selections of LOF/L, LOF/H, & thresh.
Voltage changes polarization so therefore it would be set to Polarization.
If no tone switching is used for high/low band then that is set off.

Note that Polarization in the .xml has 0,1 for linear and 2.3 for circular polarization. And some of mine for C band have been modified as I've recently tried "the slab", or depolarizer.
To answer a previous question a recent scan is here. There is a bit of housekeeping to maintain the satellites.xml file.
Some copy/pasting (deleting lines in the master .xml) from the saved scan to the Tuxbox file.
If you also look. Only satellites visible in my arc are included and all others are trimmed out. It would be obvious that versus scrolling through every single sat. in the original installed list. It is better that way.
Further. There may be many "left behinds" as although transponders may be shut off. They can also be turned back on.
Much faster in Signal finder to see so. And channels on them (in TNAP and ViX) can be seen. Rather than performing a blindscan every time.
The upload privileges prevent .xml files so you can rename the extension. It's kind of a freebie blindscan file you can pick and choose from.
Always backup first.

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10-14-2023, 11:35 AM
el bandido

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There are many ways to enter antenna settings in enigma2. But I think it is best to use the same settings the image was coded with, which is the same entry for all lnb frequency entries unless a dual l.o. lnb is being used. So a lnb with a single l.o. of 11250 would be entered three times in antenna settings.
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10-14-2023, 11:43 AM
el bandido

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Changing or altering the satellites.xml files can present its own set of problems. The channel file named lamedb is tied to the satellites.xml file for satellite entries. The lamedb file may become corrupted or unusable for the most part when a new satellites.xml file is introduced, so it is a good idea to backup the lamedb file before loading a new satellites .xml file.

Different satellites.xml files and channel files can be packed as an .ipk file which the enigma2 receiver can install. These .ipk files can be added to the feeds where they can be easily accessed and installed.

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10-14-2023, 02:42 PM
ArloG

I agree and actually had to give it a 2nd thought.
When initially installing a new image and setting up the tuner for the first time. And notice all of the sats. I never will get. I'll drag my .xml over into /etc/tuxbox. And give 'er a reboot.
That's done right after I set up the first sat. and save the config. Kind of gives me a pointer should I choose to c/p the nims lines in a saved /etc/enigma2 settings file on my pc from FTP.
Using ssl and throw it an init 4 first. Edit and save settings in Notepad++. And then a customary cold boot. A full list of tuner settings is done in a fast-setup way.
Backup first. Depending on different images and Linux versions it has crapped out once or twice before.
3rd thought, took a peek in my saved lamedb on the pc. It contains the same .xml as in tuxbox. So that's cool. I use E-Channelizer just because I do.

My .xml has a few "huh??" sat's and tp's in it. Kind of my own workspace. 131 has 2 entries. One with 131*. From back when a few tp's on it needed a bump of the dish mover to peak the channels.
So they auto-tuned (no...not like Cher or Britney) the dish to peak, sort of.
I'm still learning. Didn't want to spread bad juju.
10-14-2023, 09:34 PM
el bandido

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The Invacom QPH-031 is a decent performing lnb on most offset satellite dishes. The QPH-031 was popular and useful some 10-15 years ago when DishNet had a few channels that were not scrambled. You will probably have a hard time finding anything useful to watch on the circular side today because everything is scrambled except maybe Dish advertisements.

The Invacom QPH-031 is a heavy lnbf, and the weight of it can become a problem where there is snow and ice. This lnb is heavy and bulky to begin with, and it gets a lot worse in the weight department when snow and ice is added. This lnb is heavy enough to distort the face of some satellite dishes, especially with ice and snow. the lnb arm may also sag or bend on some satellite dishes that are poorly supported or have no side supports for the lnb arm or feed. Homeowner satellite dishes are usually a bit flimsy and not well built. Most commercial type satellite dishes would not have any problem with the lnb weight.

Another draw-back to the QPH-031 is the weather proofing was not very good and the cover will crack or break as shown below. A little more thought or care by Invacom would have made this problem less likely to happen or at least take years longer to happen. I ran the the QPH-031 shown below, and enjoyed it, but the drawbacks and problems need to be understood. My 1.2 meter dish didn't seem to have any problem holding this lnb, but the Atlanta, Ga. area doesn't get much snow or ice either.

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10-15-2023, 01:52 PM
WilburSmith

Did the lens crack because of the reflection of the sun off a white dish and into the lnb? I wanted this lnb because you never know what you may find one day.
10-15-2023, 02:00 PM
WilburSmith

If my window of satellites is from 77W to 103W how can I get rid of the ones I don't need to see?

I guess I was wrong but I was lead to believe that editing the satellites.xml do what I want while adding custome sats on an as needed basis,
10-15-2023, 06:51 PM
ArloG

Wil. I do not have 77W in my list. Could you attach your blindscan results for it?
Remember. It will have a .xml extension. So change it to satellites.txt to attache it here.
Always use Notepad++. Very important.
Just one wrong space, tab, incorrect entry can bork an edited .xml file.
And your receiver won't be happy. So perform a backup first always.
The file must be formatted perfectly for it to work. I have a file ready from 75W to 103W c & ku.
A search for Enigma 2 satellites.xml file format or configuration should tell you a bit more.
When you send your file and get mine back, you'll see a little of what was done.
10-17-2023, 09:20 AM
WilburSmith

Regarding the OpenATV blindscan the LNB can be changed here too but I'm lead to believe that here and can keep vertical and horizontal in place without changes. Is that correct?
10-17-2023, 03:51 PM
ArloG

did you get your transponder scan for 77W? still waiting for that.
10-17-2023, 07:05 PM
el bandido

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Regarding the OpenATV blindscan the LNB can be changed here too but I'm lead to believe that here and can keep vertical and horizontal in place without changes. Is that correct?

I don't really understand your question. Maybe someone else does?

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10-18-2023, 06:09 PM
ArloG

Not a bit. I always say Google is your friend.
But a few general rules must be followed.
Correct me but for the US. In the FTA hobby. A Universal lnbf should not be needed. As the only satellites using ku high band are dishnet and directv.
A standard linear polarization ku and c band lnbf should do. A very few circular polarized c band satellites can be received.
Still. Rules must be followed. And they are between E2 images. So everyone stays on the same page.

CONTROL SIGNAL
- LOW BAND(Vertical) 11.5 - 14.0V DC + 0 KHz
- LOW BAND(Horizontal) 16.0 - 19.0V DC + 0 KHz
- HIGH BAND(Vertical) 11.5 - 14.0V DC + 22 KHz
- HIGH BAND(Horizontal) 16.0 - 19.0V DC + 22 KHz

Your lnbf may be just happy operating off of 10-11 Volts DC that is carried over the coax from the receiver to it.
To switch polarities from vertical. Look at the table. The lnb will power on, it will operate fine. But it will only be able to receive vertical polarized transponders.

Inside of the lnbf "throat" there are 2 antennas placed 90 degrees apart. One to receive vertical polarized signals. And perhaps you can answer what the other one is for.
To switch between the 2 antennas the lnbf electronics needs a DC voltage above 16VDC.
The actual amplifier circuit in it will be regulated to be happy with (read above) 10 or so volts. And as it is regulated. 19 volts won't blow it out.
But. The antenna probe switch section will need a voltage higher than 16 volts to kick over and connect to that other probe.

That is done in your receiver. If you blindscan, manual scan and measure the voltage on the coax. You will see it alternate between the desired 13 & 18 VDC.

If we have a universal lnbf. And set it up correctly in tuner setup. The exact same as above happens when switching polarities in the high band.
Except now we send a pulse. Perhaps continuous. Of a 22 kilohertz (kHz) signal. Just above the human hearing capability. Signal along with the 13 & 18 VDC polarity switching voltage.
The lnbf electronics "hears" the signal and kicks in the high band frequency converter and that converted frequency range is sent down the coax cable to the receiver.

Remember. Where that high band conversion starts, where the switch for it operates. Is established in the threshold setting in tuner setup.

It would be a bit more fulfilling if we could stick on one subject. The .xml portion kind of fizzled out. What's up with that?
10-19-2023, 03:23 PM
el bandido

A fta satellite system in North America will be no better than the work put into it.

Generally speaking, folks that get into fta satellite in North America and only take the time to only ask a few specific questions without doing much reading usually do not last long. Understanding how and why things work,and understanding how and why certain parts are installed are some of the keys to success in fta satellite. If you are not doing something, you are not learning something.

You cannot expect much if you buy a cheap fta receiver, install a small satellite dish, then use cheap reception parts such as lnbf's.

Installing multiple lnbs on a dish to get different satellite bands, or using a c/ku lnbf do not normally work as well when compared to satellite dish systems that are dedicated to doing one job.

A motorized dish system cannot be aimed accurately when compared to a properly mounted stationary dish. A motorized dish has to target different satellites. A stationary dish targets One satellite.

LNB'(s) lnb feeds need to be properly matched to a satellite dish. The same matching and adjusting principles apply to both c and ku satellite bands.

Usually a lnbf is nothing more than a compromise, designed to work in a variety of situations when compared to a lnb and a matched feed.

ANY fta satellite system that has identical parts as a commercial satellite system should give excellent performance. FTA satellite is all about part matching. The better the parts are matched in an antenna system, the better the antenna system can perform.

Almost always, any lnb that has a short frequency band will perform at least somewhat better than an identical type lnb with a longer or larger frequency band.

It is easy to say: "There is nothing much to watch", OR a certain satellite band is not useful when there is no access to that band or the parts used for it are poorly matched. There are several transponders below 11700 MHz with channels that are available in North America. Reception of transponders below 11700 MHz may not be available to everyone in North America, and usually require at least a decent 1.2 meter dish, Several ku transponders below 11700 MHz may require dedicated 1.8 meter , 2,4 meter (or bigger) properly equipped satellite dish for decent reception. Mesh type c band satellite dishes usually perform poorly on ku bands.

Decent circular c band satellite reception is possible in parts of North America. There are more channels available on circular c band than most realize, but again, proper parts matching is a must for decent reception of circular c band signals.

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10-22-2023, 12:43 PM
el bandido

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Having the proper lnb really helps when searching for circular type signals. The Invacom qph-031 is actually designed to receive circular type type signals, which would probably appear to look like a corkscrew being turned left or right if we could see them. We can convert a regular linear type lnb into a somewhat circular configuration by placing a dielectric plate between the horizontal and vertical probes in the lnb throat or feed.

Converting a linear lnb to receive circular signals is a compromise and usually performs poorly when compared to a lnb designed to receive circular signals. How the dielectric plate is installed will decide the performance of a linear lnb converted to circular. The Invacom qph-031 is a great choice for both circular and linear signals on ku band, but hardly anything exists that is reasonably priced for c band.

Several hundred radio and tv channels are available on Circular c band satellites. There are circular c band feeds that not many people seem to know about, but having the proper equipment to receive these channels can be a challenge. The average FTA satellite receiver does not care if signals are scanned as linear or circular, and will usually provide identical scan results regardless of whether a circular satellite is scanned as horizontal/vertical (linear), or left/right circular as these settings are really cosmetic.

Shown below is a recent scan of a circular c band satellite that is viewable in parts of North America. There are more ACTIVE services and transponders than shown in this scan in part because a linear lnb converted to circular was used. T2MI signals are also on this satellite, but this particular receiver is not T2MI capable.

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Scan log:

Code:

Scan Report < File created on Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 22:32:05 > < Satellite = 40.5W C-band SES 6 40.6 W > < Receiver = sf8008 > < Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5 > < Kernel Version = 4.4.35 > < DVB Driver Date = 2023-07-25 > < Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz > < Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps > < Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False > < Tuner = Tuner A: Si2166D (DVB-S2X) > < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3711L / 8330 / 3/4' > Tp# 1 < (1)Canal Sur RD /> 1:0:1:A:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (2)Conectados Con Dios /> 1:0:1:2:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (3)LTV /> 1:0:1:9:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (4)Megavision RD /> 1:0:1:B:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (5)Canal Antigua /> 1:0:1:1:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (6)Gallo XC /> 1:0:1:6:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (7)Canal 6 HN /> 1:0:1:BC3:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (8)RNH /> 1:0:1:7:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (9)Congreso HN /> 1:0:1:F:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (10)TNH /> 1:0:1:E:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (11)SINPRODOH TV /> 1:0:1:4:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (12)Teleunion RD /> 1:0:1:C:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < (13)UNE TV /> 1:0:1:10:1:3:C7A0E7F:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3725L / 3750 / 3/4' > Tp# 2 < (14)TELEANTIOQUIA /> 1:0:19:1:0:0:C7A0E8D:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3765R / 30001 / 5/6' > Tp# 3 < (15)Film & Arts LATAM HD /> 1:0:1:2:65:355:C7A8EB5:0:0:0: < (16)Gourmet NORTH HD /> 1:0:1:3:65:355:C7A8EB5:0:0:0: < (17)Europa HD /> 1:0:1:5:65:355:C7A8EB5:0:0:0: < (18)Gourmet South HD /> 1:0:1:7:65:355:C7A8EB5:0:0:0: < (19)AMC South /> 1:0:1:E:65:355:C7A8EB5:0:0:0: < (20)AMC Latam /> 1:0:1:10:65:355:C7A8EB5:0:0:0: < (21)Mas Chic Latam /> 1:0:1:11:65:355:C7A8EB5:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 3768L / 30000 / 5/6' > Tp# 4 < (22)3768V SID 0x64 /> 1:0:1:64:3C7:0:C7A0EB8:0:0:0: < (23)3768V SID 0xc8 /> 1:0:1:C8:3C7:0:C7A0EB8:0:0:0: < (24)3768V SID 0x12c /> 1:0:1:12C:3C7:0:C7A0EB8:0:0:0: < (25)3768V SID 0x190 /> 1:0:1:190:3C7:0:C7A0EB8:0:0:0: < (26)3768V SID 0x1f4 /> 1:0:1:1F4:3C7:0:C7A0EB8:0:0:0: < (27)3768V SID 0x258 /> 1:0:1:258:3C7:0:C7A0EB8:0:0:0: < (28)3768V SID 0x2bc /> 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/> 1:0:2:2EE:1:21:C7A1023:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4132R / 22505 / 3/5' > Tp# 49 < (254)99(DATA) /> 1:0:C:10C8:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (255)01 BBC One /> 1:0:16:2009:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (256)02 BBC Two /> 1:0:16:200A:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (257)03 ITV /> 1:0:16:200B:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (258)06 /> 1:0:16:200C:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (259)18 Sky Sports /> 1:0:16:200D:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (260)19 TNT Sports /> 1:0:16:200E:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (261)20 BFBS Sport /> 1:0:16:200F:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (262)17 Sky News /> 1:0:16:2010:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (263)11 Channel 4 delayed /> 1:0:16:2011:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (264)12 Channel 5 delayed /> 1:0:16:2012:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (265)08 BBC One delayed /> 1:0:16:2013:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (266)09 BBC Two delayed /> 1:0:16:2014:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (267)10 ITV delayed /> 1:0:16:2015:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (268)13 BFBS Extra delayed /> 1:0:16:2016:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (269)04 /> 1:0:16:2017:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (270)05 /> 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BFBS Gurkha (Radio #87) /> 1:0:2:2029:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (288)20 BFBS Edge (Radio #88) /> 1:0:2:202A:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (289)21 BFBS Rewind (Radio #89) /> 1:0:2:202B:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (290)11 BFBS Canada (Radio #90) /> 1:0:2:202C:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (291)23 BFBS Samishran (Radio #91) /> 1:0:2:202D:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (292)13 BFBS Falkland Islands (Radio #92) /> 1:0:2:202E:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (293)24 Falklands Radio (Radio #93) /> 1:0:2:202F:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (294)27 World Service (Radio #94) /> 1:0:2:2030:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (295)25 (Radio #95) /> 1:0:2:2031:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (296)26 (Radio #96) /> 1:0:2:2032:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (297)08 (Radio #97) /> 1:0:2:2033:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (298)06 (Radio #98) /> 1:0:2:2034:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (299)07 (Radio #99) /> 1:0:2:2035:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (300)09 BFBS Belize (Radio #100) /> 1:0:2:2036:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (301)15 (Radio #101) /> 1:0:2:2037:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (302)16 (Radio #102) /> 1:0:2:2038:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (303)17 (Radio #103) /> 1:0:2:2039:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (304)30 (Radio #104) /> 1:0:2:203A:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < (305)8728 Quadrille Data /> 1:0:1:2218:4:12:C7A9024:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4151L / 2500 / 5/6' > Tp# 50 < (306)SU Chile (SU56) /> 1:0:1:164:191:1:C7A1037:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4162L / 7500 / 2/3' > Tp# 51 < (307)Ideal 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:EA78:753:753:C7A1042:0:0:0: < (308)Ideal HD /> 1:0:1:EA60:753:753:C7A1042:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4176L / 5416 / 5/6' > Tp# 52 < (309)6 CINE PREMIUM /> 1:0:1:6:0:0:C7A1050:0:0:0: < (310)7 CINE FAMILIAR /> 1:0:1:7:0:0:C7A1050:0:0:0: < (311)1 ANGEL TV /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:C7A1050:0:0:0: < (312)Ve Plus /> 1:0:1:5:0:0:C7A1050:0:0:0: < (313)Venevision Plus /> 1:0:1:4:0:0:C7A1050:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4179R / 28000 / 3/4' > Tp# 53 < (314)Service 1 /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < (315)Service 2 /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < (316)Service 3 /> 1:0:1:3:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < (317)Service 4 /> 1:0:1:4:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < (318)Service 5 /> 1:0:1:5:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < (319)Service 6 /> 1:0:1:6:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < (320)Service 7 /> 1:0:1:7:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < (321)Service 8 /> 1:0:1:8:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < (322)Service 9 /> 1:0:1:9:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < (323)Service 10 /> 1:0:1:A:1:1:C7A9053:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4183L / 5001 / 3/4' > Tp# 54 < (324)4183V SID 0x320 --- UnKnown Service Type 64 /> 1:0:64:320:3A2:0:C7A1057:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4190L / 7333 / 2/3' > Tp# 55 < (325)Pasiones HD /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:C7A105E:0:0:0: < (326)SIC International /> 1:0:1:10:1:1:C7A105E:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4194R / 5520 / 3/4' > Tp# 56 < (327)CPV-01 /> 1:0:1:1:B1:B1:C7A9062:0:0:0: < (328)CPV-02 /> 1:0:1:2:B1:B1:C7A9062:0:0:0: < (329)CPV-03 /> 1:0:1:3:B1:B1:C7A9062:0:0:0: < (330)CPV-04 /> 1:0:1:4:B1:B1:C7A9062:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4196L / 2400 / 5/6' > Tp# 57 < (331)TV La Verdad /> 1:0:1:2:94:1FD:C7A1064:0:0:0:< Blind Scan Time = 6 Min. 05 Sec. 331 Channels ( TV = 227 Radio = 104) 57 of 57 Transponders Scanned.
10-22-2023, 02:20 PM
ArloG

This was supposed to be Wil's post. Looks like he's gone MIA.
So. Fly me to Cuba!
May I ask. Where was your report written? You must like the SF8008. Looks like my next receiver.

I see your scan spans 3625 to 4800. One. Why not start at 3400 MHz? I suspect a 5G filter or new lnbf?
Two. If the highest freq. of the lnbf is 4200. Does that mean there is not a hard limit and it still can work at higher frequencies. But with a roll off in sensitivity?
And in the case of a wideband lnbf like the C2W. The same for the lower end below 3400 MHz?

I probably should know this. If I rescan a sat like 127W. After I've renamed the channels from Program 101, 102, 103 let's say. After a scan they revert back to Program XXX instead of the name I assigned them in my channel editor. How to prevent that?

Invacom's site is hard as hell to navigate. If you hit the main page and look at their products. Let's say lnbf, feeds. It's pretty sparse.
If you web search "Invacom <whatever>" when someone hints of one of their products that didn't show in the main page. And get a link. Bang! You're there. Freaky.

I started a rant (again). It basically came down to back when I was tech. services manager at my previous company.
One of my tasks was to train new hires to run their machines and the setup process between jobs.
Many had come from the same industry. Operating similar machinery and processes.
But the equipment was static. They never ran anything but the same job every day. Ours may have 4-6 or more jobs to setup and run.
As I was showing a new guy the ropes. After a few days of hoping he would catch on. Another operator he spoke with mentioned to her.
"That man sure talks to himself a lot". She told me that.
She came back to him with. He's not talking to himself. He's trying to show you how to setup your machine so you can do it yourself. Don't you see how busy he already is?
I guess he caught on after that. But. There were some 'dogs that wouldn't hunt'.
I mean. At least they could bring the frikkin' ball back. Right?
10-22-2023, 10:47 PM
el bandido

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TNAP images create scan reports automatically after each scan and store them in /tmp of the receiver files by default.

The c band lnbs are Norsat, 8000RI, which receives 3625-4800 MHz.
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The blindscan plugin automatically selects the maximum range that can be scanned, and it does not help much At All to change the scan range. Default scan range is best!

Customized channel names will be overwritten in a scan. There is an option to Not to scan transponders found in lamedb channel files in the TNAP image.

Transponders above 4200 MHz are like circular transponders: They are there, but not many know they exist because they cannot receive them. There is a decent FTA movie channel on 65w above 4200 MHz, and also below 11700 MHz on ku band. Circular lnbs, and extended band lnbs are good items to have.

Here is a scan of 65w c band:

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Scan Report < File created on Monday, October 23, 2023 at 00:22:43 > < Satellite = 65.0W C-band Star One C2 & Eutelsat 65 West A 65.1 W > < Receiver = sf8008 > < Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5 > < Kernel Version = 4.4.35 > < DVB Driver Date = 2023-07-25 > < Blindscan Frequency Range = 3625 to 4800 MHz > < Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps > < Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False > < Tuner = Tuner A: Si2166D (DVB-S2X) > < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4510V / 2083 / 2/3' > Tp# 1 < (1)TV Assembleia /> 1:0:1:E760:B1:E760:B85919E:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4511H / 3750 / 3/4' > Tp# 2 < (2)TV Cabralia 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:2598:12C:12C:B85119F:0:0:0: < (3)TV Cabralia HD /> 1:0:1:2580:12C:12C:B85119F:0:0:0: < (4)4511H SID 0x2598 /> 1:0:1:2598:12C:12C:B85119F:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4516H / 3750 / 3/4' > Tp# 3 < (5)Record Interior 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E838:741:741:B8511A4:0:0:0: < (6)Record Interior HD /> 1:0:1:E820:741:741:B8511A4:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4520H / 3730 / 3/4' > Tp# 4 < (7)Record SJRP 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E8B8:745:745:B8511A8:0:0:0: < (8)Record SJRP HD /> 1:0:1:E8A0:745:745:B8511A8:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4525H / 4800 / 2/3' > Tp# 5 < (9)Record News 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E858:742:742:B8511AD:0:0:0: < (10)Record News HD /> 1:0:1:E840:742:742:B8511AD:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4531H / 3750 / 3/4' > Tp# 6 < (11)Record Paulista 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:EB58:75A:75A:B8511B3:0:0:0: < (12)Record Paulista HD /> 1:0:1:EB40:75A:75A:B8511B3:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4535H / 3848 / 3/4' > Tp# 7 < (13)VTV SBT HD /> 1:0:1:EC40:762:762:B8511B7:0:0:0: < (14)VTV SBT 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:EC58:762:762:B8511B7:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4540H / 2500 / 3/4' > Tp# 8 < (15)REDETV /> 1:0:19:1:0:1:B8511BC:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4544H / 3730 / 3/4' > Tp# 9 < (16)RECORDTV 1Seg TVMAR /> 1:0:C0:ECD8:766:766:B8511C0:0:0:0: < (17)RECORDTV LITORALVALE /> 1:0:1:ECC0:766:766:B8511C0:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4548H / 3751 / 2/3' > Tp# 10 < (18)PLAY TV /> 1:0:19:1:0:0:B8511C4:0:0:0: < (19)4548H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:B8511C4:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4554H / 4780 / 3/4' > Tp# 11 < (20)RECORDTV 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:BD38:5E9:5E9:B8511CA:0:0:0: < (21)RECORDTV HD /> 1:0:1:BD20:5E9:5E9:B8511CA:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4555V / 2083 / 5/6' > Tp# 12 < (22)NCN-RADIO 1 (Radio #1) /> 1:0:2:3:8:80:B8591CB:0:0:0: < (23)NCN-RADIO3 (Radio #2) /> 1:0:2:2:8:80:B8591CB:0:0:0: < (24)NCN-RADIO2 (Radio #3) /> 1:0:2:1:8:80:B8591CB:0:0:0: < (25)HEVC Encoder1 /> 1:0:1:3E9:8:80:B8591CB:0:0:0: < (26)HEVC Encoder0 /> 1:0:1:3E8:8:80:B8591CB:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4565H / 5083 / 3/4' > Tp# 13 < (27)NOVO TEMPO 1-SEG /> 1:0:C0:CB18:658:658:B8511D5:0:0:0: < (28)NOVO TEMPO HD /> 1:0:1:CB00:658:658:B8511D5:0:0:0: < (29)4565H SID 0xcb18 /> 1:0:1:CB18:658:658:B8511D5:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4572H / 4780 / 3/4' > Tp# 14 < (30)Record HD /> 1:0:1:5C00:2E0:2E0:B8511DC:0:0:0: < (31)Record 1seg /> 1:0:C0:5C18:2E0:2E0:B8511DC:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4577H / 3750 / 4/5' > Tp# 15 < (32)RFTV 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:EA18:750:750:B8511E1:0:0:0: < (33)RFTV HD /> 1:0:1:EA00:750:750:B8511E1:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 QPSK 4582H / 4800 / 2/3' > Tp# 16 < (34)Record News 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E858:742:742:B8511E6:0:0:0: < (35)Record News HD /> 1:0:1:E840:742:742:B8511E6:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4588H / 4780 / 3/4' > Tp# 17 < (36)Record HD /> 1:0:1:4780:23C:23C:B8511EC:0:0:0: < (37)Record 1seg /> 1:0:C0:4798:23C:23C:B8511EC:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4594H / 4780 / 3/4' > Tp# 18 < (38)Record TV RS /> 1:0:1:CAC0:656:656:B8511F2:0:0:0: < (39)Record TV RS 1seg /> 1:0:C0:CAD8:656:656:B8511F2:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4600H / 4780 / 3/4' > Tp# 19 < (40)Record HD /> 1:0:1:24E0:127:127:B8511F8:0:0:0: < (41)Record 1seg /> 1:0:C0:24F8:127:127:B8511F8:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4606V / 3750 / 2/3' > Tp# 20 < (42)ATALAIA_SAT /> 1:0:1:1:1000:2000:B8591FE:0:0:0: < (43)XODO_FM (Radio #4) /> 1:0:2:2:1000:2000:B8591FE:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4607H / 4781 / 3/4' > Tp# 21 < (44)Record HD /> 1:0:1:9680:4B4:4B4:B8511FF:0:0:0: < (45)Record 1seg /> 1:0:C0:9698:4B4:4B4:B8511FF:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4612V / 6399 / 2/3' > Tp# 22 < (46)RADIOUNAM /> 1:0:16:12C:0:539:B859204:0:0:0: < (47)CUAIEED /> 1:0:16:2:0:539:B859204:0:0:0: < (48)TVUNAM /> 1:0:19:1:0:539:B859204:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4612H / 3750 / 2/3' > Tp# 23 < (49)TVAL /> 1:0:0:1:0:0:B851204:0:0:0: < (50)4612H SID 0x01 /> 1:0:1:1:0:0:B851204:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4650H / 30001 / 5/6' > Tp# 24 < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4687H / 3750 / 2/3' > Tp# 25 < (51)AUXILIAR /> 1:0:1:A3C0:51E:51E:B85124F:0:0:0: < (52)TV ALEPE /> 1:0:0:1:51E:51E:B85124F:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4688V / 7074 / 3/4' > Tp# 26 < (53)TV TEM HD /> 1:0:1:E800:740:740:B859250:0:0:0: < (54)TV TEM 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:E819:740:740:B859250:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4692H / 3721 / 3/4' > Tp# 27 < (55)BAND TRIANGULO 1 SEG /> 1:0:1:2:1:1:B851254:0:0:0: < (56)BAND TRIANGULO HD /> 1:0:1:1:1:1:B851254:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4697V / 7074 / 3/4' > Tp# 28 < (57)TV TEM HD /> 1:0:1:E940:74A:74A:B859259:0:0:0: < (58)TV TEM 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:E959:74A:74A:B859259:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4698H / 6668 / 3/4' > Tp# 29 < (59)TV INTEGRACAO /> 1:0:1:5AA0:0:2D5:B85125A:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4704H / 2500 / 2/3' > Tp# 30 < (60)TV ALBA HD /> 1:0:0:1:1:0:B851260:0:0:0: < (61)TV ALBA 1Seg /> 1:0:0:3E8:1:0:B851260:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4706V / 7074 / 3/4' > Tp# 31 < (62)TV TEM HD /> 1:0:1:ED20:769:769:B859262:0:0:0: < (63)TV TEM 1SEG /> 1:0:C0:ED39:769:769:B859262:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4708H / 5000 / 3/4' > Tp# 32 < (64)TRAS HD /> 1:0:19:4EE8:73E:73E:B851264:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4720H / 10000 / 3/4' > Tp# 33 < (65)Cultura FM (Radio #5) /> 1:0:2:5F:2D4:2D4:B851270:0:0:0: < (66)Radio Mix (Radio #6) /> 1:0:2:6A:2D4:2D4:B851270:0:0:0: < (67)TV INTEGRACAO UDI /> 1:0:1:5A80:2D4:2D4:B851270:0:0:0: < (68)TV INTEGRACAO AXA /> 1:0:1:5C40:2D4:2D4:B851270:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4731H / 9168 / 3/4' > Tp# 34 < (69)TVE 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E4F8:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: < (70)TVE HD /> 1:0:1:E4E0:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: < (71)EDUCA BA /> 1:0:1:E4E1:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: < (72)EDUCA FM /> 1:0:1:E4E2:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: < (73)EM 1 /> 1:0:1:E4E3:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: < (74)EM 2 /> 1:0:1:E4E4:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: < (75)EM 3 /> 1:0:1:E4E5:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: < (76)TV BRASIL 2 /> 1:0:1:E4E6:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: < (77)4731H SID 0xe4f8 /> 1:0:1:E4F8:727:727:B85127B:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4745H / 3751 / 3/4' > Tp# 35 < (78)RECORD INT/RJ 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:BD98:5EC:5EC:B851289:0:0:0: < (79)RECORD INT/RJ HD /> 1:0:1:BD80:5EC:5EC:B851289:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4750H / 3730 / 3/4' > Tp# 36 < (80)RECORDTV 1Seg TVMAR /> 1:0:C0:ECD8:766:766:B85128E:0:0:0: < (81)RECORDTV LITORALVALE /> 1:0:1:ECC0:766:766:B85128E:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S 4754H / 3750 / AUTO' > Tp# 37 < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4769H / 3730 / 3/4' > Tp# 38 < (82)Record SJRP 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E8B8:745:745:B8512A1:0:0:0: < (83)Record SJRP HD /> 1:0:1:E8A0:745:745:B8512A1:0:0:0: < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 4774H / 3750 / 3/4' > Tp# 39 < (84)Record Interior 1Seg /> 1:0:C0:E838:741:741:B8512A6:0:0:0: < (85)Record Interior HD /> 1:0:1:E820:741:741:B8512A6:0:0:0:< Blind Scan Time = 4 Min. 26 Sec. 85 Channels ( TV = 79 Radio = 6) 39 of 39 Transponders Scanned.
10-22-2023, 11:32 PM
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The lnb cannot perform any better than it is mounted. In general, ku lnbf's such as the Invacom qph 031 should be pushed all the way back against the lnb holder and not pushed forward. If a lnb/lnbf works better or seems to work better in a place where it is not supposed to be, then the dish is not adjusted correctly, warped, not assembled correctly, or has other problems. A ku dish that has the lnbf slid forward by a quarter or half inch may work fine stationary, but you can expect the signals to fluctuate on different satellites if it is motorized.

Heavy lnbs such as the Invacom qph 031 need good support and probably should not be mounted on flimsy satellite dishes, or dishes with no side arm support.

Here is a 90 cm dish that shows the ku lnb slid all the way back in the holder. This dish also has side arms for extra lnb support.
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A bit more signal may be had with custom feeds that are designed or matched better for the dish. Shown here is a Raven feed attached to a C120 type Inverto Quad. This Raven feed has provisions as to where it is supposed to be mounted. This feed Is Designed to have the scalar rings slid forward in the holder when compared to the lnbf on the 90 cm dish.
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LNBS in general will perform a bit better than lnbf's, especially when feeding multiple receivers. Here is a pair of iDirect universal ku lnbs attached to a 2.4 meter stationary Prodelin Commercial dish. 2.4 Meters is an excellent size for ku band. This particular dish will get transponders and channels that the 1.2 meter dish with the Raven feed cannot even "see".
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Sometimes when parts are changed, the feed or scalar rings may need to be raised or lowered. Adjustment provisions should be made at the bottom of the dish by use of threaded rod instead of at the top where the scalar rings are. Adding adjustments for raising or lowering the feed at the top are not as sturdy and may allow the whole feed to move, causing the signal to fluctuate. Prodelin has feed adjustments at the bottom by use of threaded rod and nut as shown below.
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10-29-2023, 09:45 PM
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Adjusting or aligning the lnb or satellite dish can be frustrating when the satellite signal is uncommonly strong. (Circular satellites are noted for their strength.) The transponders that have open channels on 77w(?) are very strong on my 1.2 meter dish with linear type lnbs. I find the watchable tv signal stretches out about 3.5 degrees which overlaps another satellite since the two satellites are spaced a bit less than 2 degrees apart.

To further confuse, the 78.8w satellite is supposed to be on a beam that favors Mexico, but the satellite is also listed as having beams capable of CONUS. So which satellite you are actually on can become confusing in a situation like this, especially with smaller satellite dish antennas. I probably need at least the 2.4 meter or bigger ku satellite dish to separate these two satellites.

Here are two screencaps showing a spread of 76.0 to 79.5 for the channels that are supposed to be on 77.0w. If this is correct, then I am 1 degree below, and 2.5 degrees above this satellite with a usable tv signal. The entire usable tv signal spread is: 79.5-76.0 Or 3.5 degrees. That is a lot for ku band on a 1.2 meter dish. Ditto the fact that linear lnbs are being used on a circular signal.

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10-29-2023, 09:54 PM
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In general. universal type lnbs will be a bit weaker than a standard lnb because the universal lnb is designed to receive a wider frequency range. There are not a terribly lot of watchable tv and radio channels, but there are probably more than you think. Shown below is a blindscan of 117w Ku using Universal lnb near Atlanta, Ga.

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Scan Report < File created on Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 23:25:43 > < Satellite = 117.0W Ku-band Eutelsat 117 West A/B > < Receiver = edision osmio4kplus > < Enigma2 Image = Tnap 5 > < Kernel Version = 5.15.0 > < DVB Driver Date = 2021-11-03 > < Blindscan Frequency Range = 11700 to 12750 MHz > < Blindscan Symbol Rate Range = 1 to 60 Msps > < Blindscan Only Free Channels or Services? = False > < Tuner = Tuner A: Availink AVL6261 (DVB-S2X) > < 'DVB-S2 8PSK 10971H / 30002 / 3/5' > Tp# 1 < (1)La KeBuena (Radio #1) /> 1:0:2:2D6:487:1:97E2ADB:0:0:0: < (2)Los40 (Radio #2) /> 1:0:2:2D7:487:1:97E2ADB:0:0:0: < (3)Telesecundaria 1ro. /> 1:0:16:321:487:1:97E2ADB:0:0:0: < (4)Telesecundaria 2do. /> 1:0:1:322:487:1:97E2ADB:0:0:0: < (5)Telesecundaria 3ro. /> 1:0:1:323:487:1:97E2ADB:0:0:0: < (6)Telebachillerato /> 1:0:1:324:487:1:97E2ADB:0:0:0: < (7)Capacita TV /> 1:0:1:325:487:1:97E2ADB:0:0:0: < (8)Ingenio TV /> 1:0:1:326:487:1:97E2ADB:0:0:0: < (9)Canal 11 IPN /> 1:0:1:327:487:1:97E2ADB:0:0:0: < 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